Sunday, June 03, 2007

Support Miss Dynamite on Wikipedia: UPDATED

UPDATE: Vote for RESTORE here. We need plenty of votes.

Join the discussion here. Please stay civil, no insults.

Give them the reasons why Miss Dynamite is notable (it's even better if you have a Wikipedia account). Miss Dynamite is #1 on Google in front of Ms. Dynamite the singer. And if you search "Miss Dynamite anime" there's no confusion possible with the singer. Miss Dynamite is one of the oldest running series on Newgrounds. The singer never uses "Miss Dynamite", she uses "Ms". They removed all the facts about Todd Goldman's plagiarism, there's articles on Pokémons nobody knows that scroll forever, but just because 3 people didn't know Miss Dynamite they delete it? Here are the prizes won by the Miss Dynamite anime on Newgrounds:
1. Miss Dynamite XXII iraq, Weekly Users' Choice, 3/14/07
2. Miss Dynamite XXII iraq, Daily Feature, 3/13/07
3. Miss Dynamite XXI, Weekly 4th Place, 11/8/06
4. Miss Dynamite XXI, Daily Feature, 11/7/06
5. Miss Dynamite XX, Daily 2nd Place, 8/19/06
6. Miss Dynamite XIX, Daily 3rd Place, 3/8/06
7. Miss Dynamite XVIII, Daily Feature, 8/24/05
8. Miss.Dynamite XVII, Daily 2nd Place, 4/2/05
9. MssDynamitevsTerriSchiavo, Daily 3rd Place, 3/26/05
10. Miss.Dynamite XV, Daily Feature, 8/21/03
11. Miss.Dynamite XV, Weekly Users' Choice, 8/20/03
12. Miss.Dynamite KISS doll, Daily Feature, 3/14/02
13. Miss.Dynamite xmas card01, Daily 3rd Place, 12/25/01
14. Miss.Dynamite VII, Daily 2nd Place, 11/16/01
15. Miss.Dynamite XIV, Weekly Users' Choice, 10/31/01
16. Miss.Dynamite XIV, Daily Feature, 10/25/01
17. Miss.Dynamite XIII, Daily Feature, 4/14/01
18. Miss.Dynamite XII, Daily Feature, 1/22/01
19. Miss.Dynamite XI, Daily Feature, 11/14/00
20. Miss.Dynamite VI Swimsuit, Daily Feature, 10/12/00
21. Miss.Dynamite X, Daily Feature, 10/1/00
22. Miss.Dynamite IX, Daily Feature, 8/12/00

UPDATE II: Doesn't look good so far. Not nearly enough "Restore" votes.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doubt it will be successful, but make of it what you want.

6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To add to my previous comment, chances it'll come back are very slim as they don't consider Newgrounds notable. A newpaper publication or a mention by some really well-known website like CNN or something will do.

Everything else will not.

See here:

7:01 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

Newgrounds isn't notable? WTF

7:18 PM  
Anonymous Babylon said...

Its funny how a search on 4 different engines pulled up your site before the singer, even when searching for images.

At this point i would resort to using viral tactics likes placing your controversy inside deviant art article and attach your features to the newgrounds article. As well as attach your attacks on the Liberal avenger. If you cant have a main article then be part of many others.

7:51 PM  
Blogger Uber said...

Awards won only on Newgrounds don't work either - they're not independent either. See WP:RS. --Coredesat 23:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

How exactly is Newgrounds not independent from your series?

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

9:14 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

I don't think they like Newgrounds very much.

10:27 PM  
Blogger Lexi said...

I feel if they're going to pull something like this, then they should delete the articles of webcomics period. There is Comixpedia, which is in the process of being transfered to a new webmaster. With the help of users and active fans out there, it's become a nice webcomic wiki. So on that note, I say screw fighting Wikipedia. Let them have it the way they want it.

10:36 PM  
Anonymous AlphaFactor said...

i put up a comment. well-reasoned, mostly, too. hopefully, it'll budge them somewhat.

1:58 AM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

Doesn't look good so far. Not nearly enough "Restore" votes.

3:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many webcomics much less notable than Miss Dynamite have their own Wikipedia pages, my own included. However, awhile back my own comic's Wikipedia entry was also submitted for deletion in a similar fashion. The way I managed to convince the powers that be of my comic's worthiness was to mention any instance where the comic and characters has been published, mentioned, reviewed, or even cameoed. A comic and flash cartoon as popular and long-lasting as Miss Dynamite should have no problem with a list of references like that. I would think Sirkowski's tussel with DeviantArt alone would be note-worthy enough.

9:40 AM  
Anonymous Tainted Ink said...

Er I didnt mean to be anonymous. My webcomic is Contemplating Reiko.

9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just sent them a letter and Hope it helps I could not vote on the matter because it was locked! But this is he copy of the letter I sent them.. I hope it helps some?

Dear sir or madam of

I feel very strongly that Miss Dynamite the Anime/cartoon should indeed have a place hear on your web page. I feel very strongly that buy putting Miss Dynamite back up it will not only benefit you but everyone. Thank you for your cooperation.

Robert Lamont
spoosh Hallzy the 3rd

Well I hope it helps .Let me know if there is any thing else that can be done?

11:22 AM  
Anonymous taintedink said...

I read all of the comments left on Wikipedia and left my two cents as well. Miss Dynamite has been published and clearly exists beyond the internet, I do not see how they could honestly disapprove you. I think many people who comment on Wikipedia simply like to play devil's advocate and will not endorse you for the simple sake of it. The guilty until proven innocent-style of it is quite annoying, but since you have solid proof, voting against you boils down to nothing short of a lie. Hopefully, the administrators are reasonable.

6:42 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

They don't even seem to think the Canadian National Archives is a reliable source.

8:55 PM  
Anonymous DryaUnda said...

I don't think voting is going to matter much, at least according to this template:

"If you came here because somebody asked you to, or you read a message on a forum, please note that this is not a majority vote, but rather a discussion to establish a consensus amongst Wikipedia editors on whether a page or group of pages is suitable for this encyclopedia."

9:36 PM  
Anonymous alphafactor said...

yes, yes...

but when do we get to start hurling insults and threats...?

that's a lot more fun, regardless of the outcome.

11:02 PM  
Anonymous Babylon said... does a encyclopedia lose legitimacy, by claiming that an older, printed, and internationally recognized library is not an independent source. But this is a nerd fight so good luck to ya.

12:07 AM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

I don't see what more can be done to convince them. I mean it's the fucking Canadian National Archives. If that's not legit, nothing will be.

12:26 PM  
Blogger legmuscle said...

Seems to me that this "notability" thing is just vague enough to justify deleting whatever they want.

3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should note that your characters also appeared in another web comic by another artist(as shown in one of your May 2007 news feeds. Also since Wiki can be edited by the users that visit the site, I would suggest typing in "webcomics" into the search function and taking a look at what comes up. There is one entry that is a list of printed webcomics that oddly enough "Miss Dynamite" is missing from. Also I'm not quite sure why anyone would want to delete information unless the information is completely false. Also sometimes when I search for information in which the name relates to more than one thing, they usually put the difference in parenthesis, I.E. Miss Dynamite (Webcomic) | Miss Dynamite (Singer)
This to me would have seemed like a much easier task for the developer's then having to remove every instance of Miss Dynamite (webcomic) from Wiki. Have you looked into whether or not you would be able to sue Wikipedia for removing information for not being "noteworthy"

"Wikipedia is an online open-content collaborative encyclopedia, that is, a voluntary association of individuals and groups working to develop a common resource of human knowledge. The structure of the project allows anyone with an Internet connection to alter its content. Please be advised that nothing found here has necessarily been reviewed by people with the expertise required to provide you with complete, accurate or reliable information."

This is the first direct quote from their disclaimer. Basically a bunch of people that don't get paid, that let outside users edit content that may or may not be reliable. So if no one got confused before...and seeing as how these people that don't get paid to do something can delete whatever they want...then it's not really a "free encyclopedia" that can be edited by us.

7:26 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

Thanks for the info.

10:21 PM  
Anonymous Ori said...

I sent them a inquiry about "relevance"- apparently how much the topic in question is mentioned outside of it's site and it's wikipedia page is a factor, not counting fan mentions and the creator's online blog.

Apparently, their standards on it are fuzzy... you got 128 hits, which is two hits shy of 13 pages. As I said on the talk page, someone explain to me how that that doesn't qualify as a significant result- some of the pages they seem to be protecting don't even get that cheating!

5:41 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

I think they've already made their decision and nothing's gonna change their mind.

11:34 PM  
Anonymous Francis Hervieux said...

Deletion endorsed, required non-trivial multiple third party sources not supplied.

Sorry... :-/

10:53 AM  

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