Fuck, I try so hard to sympathize with middle eastern culture and nations, but its shit like this that just makes me sick to my stomach. Its like they're still in the Dark Ages only now they have guns and missiles.
Really, stories like this do make an argument that there are some cultures that the world would simply be a better place without. And I try not to make it sound like it's a race war or anything thing, but if Islam's views on women, outsiders and other issues were to change or be done away with altogether, maybe it would mean the whole region would be a better place for women, gays, etc.
People think that because we have so many convenient solutions to modern living as well as a never ending flow of consumer-based tripe and gadgetry that none of us want or need that we have left the dark ages. Nothing could be further from the truth. The same elite forces and families that controlled the globe all those many years ago through the relationship between lords and surfs still hold all the power to this day. Now there are just a lot more sheep for the megalomaniacs in charge to trick and take advantage of... Think about it. Every single problem the world faced in medieval times is still around today, and whats worse is that the old problems (war, disease, poverty, illiteracy, racism)now have a slough of extra modern problems to keep them company. The fact is the world is in dire need of one hell of a new renaissance. And FAST!
Actually, Sirk, Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" brings up the notion that the Middle Class was formed mostly to further divide the lower class, to give them the illusion that they could aspire to a better life and not have to demand more from the ruling elites of society. So I'm not entirely sure that having the middle class is as much a good thing as it is a 'buffer' for the richest 5% of the world population.
That's paranoid fantasies of teachers of political science.
A middle-class existed in two times during our civilization. Now and in the Renaissance. The first middle-class was a consequence of so many people dying of the plague. There was a lack of workers and thus the jobs were better paid.
It's impossible to have a revolution when you have a large middle-class because as you point out, people are too comfortable in their situation to risk skrewing things up. But to say that this situation is conspiracy to control the masses, that's a stretch.
But speaking of Saudi Arabia. "Saudi Arabia's rulers threatened to make it easier for terrorists to attack London unless corruption investigations into their arms deals were halted, according to court documents revealed yesterday." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/15/bae.armstrade
Saudi Arabia is an embarrassment to a lot of Muslims, including some I know. Let's start out with the obvious, NOT ONE from Iraq, NOT ONE from Afghanistan. Fourteen were Saudi Nationals, not to mention Osama of the Bin Laden clan, the #2 family looking to be the #1 family.
That country is a dictatorship that uses selective "Fundamentalism" to rule with brutality. The Taliban with more money, or America if the "Dominionists" had their way. They'd cut off the hand of a man who steals food to survive who's willing to work but faces starvation in the shadow of opulence. At night the 'princes' roam wilding like clockwork orange fans killing lower class persons for fun while they have sex with boys and do every drug known to man, and worse drink alcohol but face not the slightest punishment. Unless they do faggotry in broad daylight...
One would hope that the Islamic country that holds Mecca would be better, that these would be false rumors, but look at the WIRED article about their "Robotic Camel Jockey" thing. They used to use Somali slaves, notably young boys. But that made them a country that openly used slavery, making the 'war on terror' cooperation with the US part hard. So they had some engineers make robotic remote control camel jockeys.
Except they had two problems; 1. The religious police forbade the dummies to be too lifelike, a ridiculous extension of the "Idolatry" clause that only really forbids Mohamed and Allah/God from being depicted. 2. They gain no pleasure raping the robots.
Hell, if anything they're corrupt because of Mecca. Holy lands and cities seem to have a corrupting influence. Rome was basicaly the same when the Pope could still crown emperors. Corruption, murder, pedophile harems. The only difference is this was 500 years ago. But Saudi Arabia doesn't ave any incentives to evolve. We're their bitch because we need their oil so much.
Whether the invention of a middle class was an improvement or not, the single implementation of a social group more appropriately called the "consumer" class doesn't erase the overwhelming tide of ignorance and apathy the populace of the world is mired in. Try marketing I Pods or Botox in Darfur or Burma. Middle class can only exist in countries which have become decadent and vain. And if you you really think about it, middle class wasn't an invention at all. It is an inevitable state of being for a planet which has become overtaxed and overpopulated. When the numbers of anything which can be counted exceed limits priorly thought impossible, of course you will need a new classification system. Middle class is just another way of saying "sheep +1".
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Fuck, I try so hard to sympathize with middle eastern culture and nations, but its shit like this that just makes me sick to my stomach. Its like they're still in the Dark Ages only now they have guns and missiles.
Hmm, with shit like that going down, even Scientology looks appealing as an alternative.
Really, stories like this do make an argument that there are some cultures that the world would simply be a better place without. And I try not to make it sound like it's a race war or anything thing, but if Islam's views on women, outsiders and other issues were to change or be done away with altogether, maybe it would mean the whole region would be a better place for women, gays, etc.
People think that because we have so many convenient solutions to modern living as well as a never ending flow of consumer-based tripe and gadgetry that none of us want or need that we have left the dark ages. Nothing could be further from the truth. The same elite forces and families that controlled the globe all those many years ago through the relationship between lords and surfs still hold all the power to this day. Now there are just a lot more sheep for the megalomaniacs in charge to trick and take advantage of... Think about it. Every single problem the world faced in medieval times is still around today, and whats worse is that the old problems (war, disease, poverty, illiteracy, racism)now have a slough of extra modern problems to keep them company. The fact is the world is in dire need of one hell of a new renaissance. And FAST!
Well, there was no middle-class in the Middle-Ages. Sounds like an improvement to me.
Actually, Sirk, Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" brings up the notion that the Middle Class was formed mostly to further divide the lower class, to give them the illusion that they could aspire to a better life and not have to demand more from the ruling elites of society. So I'm not entirely sure that having the middle class is as much a good thing as it is a 'buffer' for the richest 5% of the world population.
BURN THE WITCH! STONE HER!
STONE HER WITH CHARCOAL AND THEN MAKE A BARBEQUE!
That's paranoid fantasies of teachers of political science.
A middle-class existed in two times during our civilization. Now and in the Renaissance. The first middle-class was a consequence of so many people dying of the plague. There was a lack of workers and thus the jobs were better paid.
It's impossible to have a revolution when you have a large middle-class because as you point out, people are too comfortable in their situation to risk skrewing things up. But to say that this situation is conspiracy to control the masses, that's a stretch.
But speaking of Saudi Arabia.
"Saudi Arabia's rulers threatened to make it easier for terrorists to attack London unless corruption investigations into their arms deals were halted, according to court documents revealed yesterday."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/15/bae.armstrade
Saudi Arabia is an embarrassment to a lot of Muslims, including some I know. Let's start out with the obvious, NOT ONE from Iraq, NOT ONE from Afghanistan. Fourteen were Saudi Nationals, not to mention Osama of the Bin Laden clan, the #2 family looking to be the #1 family.
That country is a dictatorship that uses selective "Fundamentalism" to rule with brutality. The Taliban with more money, or America if the "Dominionists" had their way. They'd cut off the hand of a man who steals food to survive who's willing to work but faces starvation in the shadow of opulence. At night the 'princes' roam wilding like clockwork orange fans killing lower class persons for fun while they have sex with boys and do every drug known to man, and worse drink alcohol but face not the slightest punishment. Unless they do faggotry in broad daylight...
One would hope that the Islamic country that holds Mecca would be better, that these would be false rumors, but look at the WIRED article about their "Robotic Camel Jockey" thing. They used to use Somali slaves, notably young boys. But that made them a country that openly used slavery, making the 'war on terror' cooperation with the US part hard. So they had some engineers make robotic remote control camel jockeys.
Except they had two problems;
1. The religious police forbade the dummies to be too lifelike, a ridiculous extension of the "Idolatry" clause that only really forbids Mohamed and Allah/God from being depicted.
2. They gain no pleasure raping the robots.
remote control camel robot sex!
Hell, if anything they're corrupt because of Mecca. Holy lands and cities seem to have a corrupting influence. Rome was basicaly the same when the Pope could still crown emperors. Corruption, murder, pedophile harems. The only difference is this was 500 years ago. But Saudi Arabia doesn't ave any incentives to evolve. We're their bitch because we need their oil so much.
If she weights as much as a duck...then she is a witch!
I shall bring my largest scales!
Whether the invention of a middle class was an improvement or not, the single implementation of a social group more appropriately called the "consumer" class doesn't erase the overwhelming tide of ignorance and apathy the populace of the world is mired in. Try marketing I Pods or Botox in Darfur or Burma. Middle class can only exist in countries which have become decadent and vain. And if you you really think about it, middle class wasn't an invention at all. It is an inevitable state of being for a planet which has become overtaxed and overpopulated. When the numbers of anything which can be counted exceed limits priorly thought impossible, of course you will need a new classification system. Middle class is just another way of saying "sheep +1".
Welcome to politcal science 101... e_e *sigh*
Actually I've never taken a poli-sci class in my life. This is just basic logic... ^_^
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