Friday, August 01, 2008

/b/utt hurt

New York Times Mag has a very good article on troll culture. It seems to confirms what a lot of us already suspected. Trolls troll cuz they got butt hurt.
A flat-screen HDTV dominated Fortuny’s living room, across from a futon prepped with neatly folded blankets. This was where I would sleep for the next few nights. As Fortuny picked up his cat and settled into an Eames-style chair, I asked whether trolling hurt people. “I’m not going to sit here and say, ‘Oh, God, please forgive me!’ so someone can feel better,” Fortuny said, his calm voice momentarily rising. The cat lay purring in his lap. “Am I the bad guy? Am I the big horrible person who shattered someone’s life with some information? No! This is life. Welcome to life. Everyone goes through it. I’ve been through horrible stuff, too.”

“Like what?” I asked. Sexual abuse, Fortuny said. When Jason was 5, he said, he was molested by his grandfather and three other relatives.
Jason’s mother later told me, too, that he was molested by his grandfather. The last she heard from Jason was a letter telling her to kill herself. “Jason is a young man in a great deal of emotional pain,” she said, crying as she spoke. “Don’t be too harsh. He’s still my son.”

Sorry, but your trolling will never hurt as much as your grandpa's dick, sucker! lol


Anonymous IKS said...

Bwahaha. Your commentary is exactly right. :>

7:10 PM  
Anonymous Tainted Ink said...

If every douchebag on the internet was a victim of sodomy that would mean an epidemic. I think most trolls just act that way on the internet because they can. If they tried the same shit in real life they'd get their faces punched in.

9:25 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

Not the occasional douche, but real trolls. And one person can troll a lot of different places using different names. It's funny to see these trolls try to rationalize their behavior, calling it a "social experiment", but they obviously don't realize what pathetic sad sacks of misery they really are. Sodomized by grandpa, no family, no real friends.

12:16 AM  
Anonymous Jezebel1669 said...

"I've been hurt so that gives me the right to hurt other people too."

What a fucking stupid way to live through life. I've been hurt too in my life, but you don't find me going around the place attacking people randomly. The true measure of a person is the ability to rise above your pain and to act in a way which promotes peace everywhere.

Except in comics of course, wouldn't want Eva to get all pacifist. =)

7:18 AM  
Blogger Major Spoosh Hallzy said...

Please excuse my choice of wording hear...

Trolls are the same people who are real dick heads over the phone and a tough guy or girl when your not face to face , but the second your there in person face to face they are all yes sir no sir I am sorry sir..
I never understood why people have balls when they are talking through some thing ie a phone the net or another person but the second your face to face where you can reach them and ring there neck its a whole new tune!

9:04 AM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

And Eva doesn't need to get butt hurt to harm people. X-D

10:44 AM  
Anonymous zod said...

Showing your compassion once again I see. So, it's wrong for conservatives to be jerks, but totally okay for you? What makes you so different from this troll? You just made fun of his molestation on the internet, sounds exactly like what a troll would do sirk.

4:00 AM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

You're either dumb or trolling. Either way, have some cake.

11:08 AM  
Blogger Daniel said...

Of course an article about a troll is going to get trolled. Stop pretending you care, zod, the only reason you're here is because you're always trying to point out some sort of perceived inconsistency in Sirk's posts. Find something better to do with your time and get a life.

Anyway, I actually know a guy who trolled irl. Which, while ballsier than trolling online, I'm sure was still frustrating for the group he trolled. He's a great guy, but I wouldn't have any sympathy if someone had actually hit him.

I have to wonder if this Times article is actually generating sympathy for trolls, ha.

12:37 PM  
Anonymous zod said...

I have seen trolling comments made by sirk on Daily KOS. And sirk has trolled conservative forums before. I know you all worship him, for some strange reason. I've read your comments. But he cannot claim the higher ground. He trolls, and has been trolled. He has called the religious right evil, then rejoiced over a mans death, even drawn a rather crude and childish cartoon about it. Our actions define who we are.

2:29 AM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

You need an account to post on Daily KOS and I don't have one.

Are you that guy from Republicus? Someone showed me that blog the other day and I was wondering if I should talk about it or not.

TL;DR story, there's a guy called John on a blog called Republicus. He once got banned from LiberalAvenger, I don't even remember who banned him, must've been like 2 years ago? I dunno. Anyway, now there's people (probably channers, I talked to one of them who became a Miss Dynamite fan because of John) who troll John's blog. And John is persuaded that I'm trolling his blog using sock-puppets.

I thought of trying to talk to him, but what good would that do? The guy is completly delusional, I would suspect somekind of obscessive paranoïa. Next he's gonna think I'm watching over his house in a black helicopter. John is still pissed off about getting banned and still writes drama post about the serious business of getting banned. He would never believe me if I told him the truth.

Sure, I've made fun of some conservatives in their comments sometimes, but that's extremly rare, because I don't read those unless a liberal blog links to them. That's just not what trolling is.

Soooooooooooo, who is Zod? :-)

10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the rest of the article, or do you just prefer making fun of people who get molested.

"It was three days ago when 8year-old Tawna Hawkings was raped by 43 year-old Jose Alvarez. Reports say that Alvarez kidnapped the girl while she was playing in the park."


But what if there was more to the article?

"Tawna's injuries were too much for her body.

'She has partial organ failure. She would have been unable to do any strenuos activities until her surgery four days from now,' say mother Kelly Hawkings.

Alvarez turned himself in, telling police where to find the body. She was discovered dead, with bruises around her body. More details later."

So, you just made fun of a dead girl.

Is it because this guy is a troll, who actually pulled something that shattered the way we see humanity's thought-process, that allows you to make fun of him?

If you were raped, wouldn't you do the same thing?

I'm not saying it's right; tourturing minds like that is wrong. Should he be made fun of being raped? No. Should he be critisized for what he did on MySpace? Yes.

Don't you just love being on your own website, having as much time as you want to callously decide what to type out next? Maybe if you had to answer the question the answer it was given out may change what you think.

1:58 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

You read the wrong article, lol X-D

2:20 PM  
Blogger Daniel said...


zod, did you ever write any after-school specials? cuz I could totally picture myself learning life lessons from you.

It's quite obvious your only motive here is to be a conservatroll. You could have played it all off like you actually gave a damn about hypocrisy, if you hadn't whined about politics, ha.

I don't know about worship, but I know that both I and Sirk belong to the "Evil Atheist Conspiracy". Perhaps I've said too much...

note to Sirk: If this guy says he's zod, does that mean he's trying to say you're Superman?

3:51 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

I dunno.

But for precision's sake, it's the "Zionist Evil Atheist Conspiracy" I'm part of, since I'm the owner of a box-cutter. The same kind of box-cutters used for 9/11. OMGS!!!!!1111

4:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, that was an article made up as a metaphor. I know what I read. The article we are both talking about goes onto talk about Weev's super-hacking.

At least you thought immediatly instead of looking closly at my post. I thank you for listening to the last part of it.

9:08 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

Did you say METAPHOR?
He is Franz Kafka!
Franz Kafka!
Be carefull if you get him pissed
Franz, Franz Kafka!
He'll smite you with metaphor fists
Right now he can't
He's just a ma-y-an
A warrior of words taking a stand

9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, if I gave you the bird, would you see it?

If I typed, "Hey, that guy had a traumatic time, you didn't hear his side," would you have read the rest of it?

If I had told you, "Bad, Sirkowski!" would you have heard it?

Come on.

Don't get pissed off. Don't make fun of me. Will anything bad happen if you continue? No. I'm asking you to stop. That's it.

Surely you would want someone to care if you got injured or, yes, traumatized.

2:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been a troll at some points, though probably not by the definition people here are using.

Me and my cousin played doctor once when very little, which included some mutual finger sodomy.

I'm not sure what that means. I'm reasonably sure I wasn't traumatized by it. I always thought my being an asshole was cause I thought it funny to be an asshole.

Goddamit, the psychologist in me is now overanalyzing my every move.

Thanks a lot sirkowski. Now everytime I'm an asshole I'm gonna wonder if it was cause there was a finger up mine.

5:06 AM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

"Don't get pissed off."

Dude, get over yourself, I'm not pissed off. I'm not engaging with you because you don't make any sense. You're either trolling or you have no debate skills. And I don't care which it is.

Just watch the Franz Kafka Rock opera again, mh'k?

11:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing how you can avoid what I'm trying to type out.

Don't get pissed off about how people try to blame what they do on what happened to themselves. Which, from what I see, is what happened.

But that's going off from the main point. Just take this as my comment:

Don't be an asshole. If the guy didn't do anything to you, don't be a third-party and make fun of him while thinking it's okay.

12:35 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

Yes, yes. I will listen to the anonymous guy on the Internets and do exactly what he said. No sarcasm at all here, thank you goodnight!

1:55 PM  
Blogger Woody George said...


9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shit, your listening to anon now?

Quick, draw shitloads of Eva/Blackie furry vore porn!

6:02 PM  
Blogger Sirkowski said...

By your command!

6:49 PM  

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